# Sigmaroc PLC Q&A with Chief Executive Officer Max Vermorken (LON:SRC)

- Link: https://www.directorstalkinterviews.com/sigmaroc-plc-qa-chief-executive-officer-max-vermorken-lonsrc/412727010
- Published: 2017-04-11T09:30:20+01:00
- Author: Amilia Stone

**SigmaRoc PLC** (LON:SRC) Chief Executive Officer Max Vermorken caught up with 
DirectorsTalk for an exclusive interview to discuss the construction materials sector,
how they are positioning themselves in the sector, it’s new subsidiary and what 
to expect going forward

 

**Q1: Now Max, given the low number of construction materials stocks on the London
Stock Exchange, do you think it’ll be beneficial for our listeners if you give them
a one minute overview of the sector and its dynamics?**

**A1**: Certainly, so the construction materials industry, people will probably 
most relate to 2 products, cement and crushed stone, and then the derived downstream
parts from there which is concrete, building blocks, basically everything you see
when you walk around in a city. These products are usually low-value, high value
products and quite abundant locally so that we can actually produce them quickly
locally around the UK and Europe. That means that first of all that the markets 
are extremely competitive and highly localised, and an element to that is that transport
costs in this industry compared to the value of the product itself is very high 
so you tend not to try and source things from far away. As it goes, over the last
20 years, a large number of bigger groups have started to consolidate in order to
take market share and that led to disappearance of quite a few names that people
in the UK would have remembered who were listed businesses here.

 

**Q2: How is SigmaRoc positioning itself in the sector and how does its investment
focus compared to other groups active in this space?**

**A2**: So SigmaRoc’s focus is on high quality, very localised businesses, businesses
that have ??? potential that isn’t exploited fully yet. It may sound trivial but
in fact really isn’t, a large group run small entities, they’re not necessarily 
the best place to do so because how easy is it to understand the dynamics of a town
in the UK from head office elsewhere. The second dynamic which is a lot of small
companies, family-run or family-owned businesses, that don’t necessarily have the
management skills you would have when you are part of a bigger group.

So, there’s a number of businesses that are out there, that can be bought, that 
can be run much more optimally than they currently are. The ideal set-up to do that
is to have a very decentralised approach, whereas a group of industry experts in
the middle of headquarters, I would say, like SigmaRoc, help and guide strong local
management in running their localised business. The added difference that we put
it in there, compared to traditional players in this industry or recent successes
in this industry like for instance, Summit Materials in the UK or Breedon here, 
they don’t really have a strong preference for sub-sectors which are less competitive,
either because of the geography, there’s just more and more places, or because of
the product that is produced. We obviously bought Ronez which is a key example of
that because of the two islands, Jersey and Guernsey and the operations in the construction
material sector down there.

 

**Q3: As you mentioned, earlier this week, SigmaRoc announced the creation of a 
new subsidiary, could you please expand on the new entity and describe why it’s 
key or the business?**

**A3**: So, we bought Ronez which operates on the Channel Islands and we’re, obviously,
always looking to expand into, first of all, the next niche opportunity we can find
and the next acquisition we can do. An opportunity came our way to get into a nice
bolt-on activity which is boats and then shipping using special pneumatic carriers
but then of a smaller size. The strategic fit is very nice here because there are
hardly any of these vessels around, in the North Sea I think there’s 1 or 2 other
ones of the specific nature that we’ve bought and they are a key addition to the
sector because not every port can handle large ships, not every load that is transported
needs to be such a high volume and very often things need to be transported higher
up the river and bigger ships can’t go there. So, with the vessel we’ve bought and
the entity we’ve structured around it, we really have a nice addition to the sector
in that way and for us at SigmaRoc it’s a real win-win, we’ve got a new acquisition,
a new entity set up, we’ll add to our bottom line and since we are in business already,
we are now in full control of our own shipping needs as well. So, a win-win and 
a nice little first acquisition on the back of what we did in January.

 

**Q4: Lastly then, SigmaRoc PLC put out a strong operational update in February,
how has the year gone so far and when do you expect to announce final results for
2016?**

**A4**: So, we will be putting out 2016 results at the end of the quarter, this 
month. A key thing to note here is we bought our first asset in January 2017 so 
our existence in 2016 was as a shell company, primarily, so the results that we 
will find for 2016 will be to a certain degree irrelevant, they will only show the
transaction costs we incurred to buy the first asset. So, these results will come
out this month and since, our first has been very positive, we will certainly look
to update the market of our performance of the first quarter because a large number
of the significant efforts we’ve put in to embedding in the Ronez business and making
sure that it runs well, that we generate further efficiencies, these are coming 
through already and obviously like to tell investors about that.

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