# Mortgage Advice Bureau Q&A with CEO Peter Brodnicki (LON:MAB1)

- Link: https://www.directorstalkinterviews.com/mortgage-advice-bureau-qa-ceo-peter-brodnicki-lonmab1/412749354
- Published: 2018-04-16T13:00:57+01:00
- Author: Amilia Stone

**Mortgage Advice Bureau (Holdings) PLC** (LON:MAB1) Chief Executive Officer Peter
Brodnicki caught up with DirectorsTalk for an exclusive interview to discuss the
mortgage market, the MAB business model, how the business looks compared to IPO,
the main drivers for continued growth and growing the business in a technology enabled
world

 

**Q1: Peter, if I can start with the mortgage market, how would you describe it 
and where are you seeing the most activity at the moment?**

**A1**: I think there are three standout areas of activity right now.

First-time buyers continue to be the strongest growth segment in the purchase market
especially in new build where help-to-buy applications have actually never been 
higher. In the buy-to-let area, in purchase where it’s pretty stable there currently
after the falls we initially experienced however buy-to-let re-mortgage remains 
very strong and accounts for around 70% of all buy-to-let lending currently. In 
terms of overall re-mortgage market, that continues to strengthen and now, that 
mortgage intermediaries can also advice on product switching with the customer, 
can be offered a retention product with their existing lender, the opportunities
have never been greater for borrowers.

With technology development starting to simplify the mortgage application process
and advice available in more convenient ways for our customers, the mortgage is 
becoming a far more flexible and reviewable product that can be used to purchase,
capital raise, support retirement planning or simply switch or re-mortgage to ensure
you never pay more than you need to for your mortgage.

 

**Q2: Can you give us a simpler overview of your business model and what you put
your success down to?**

**A2**: Firstly, I just want to explain the role of a mortgage intermediary which
is to help borrowers research, receive advice and apply for mortgages with a choice
of over 12,000 products from around 100 different lenders, currently 73%-74% of 
UK mortgages are arranged through mortgage intermediaries.

The MAB model is on one level a network for mortgage advice firms that, in exchange
for turnover charge, we provide full compliance services and access to the widest
range of lenders, mortgages and insurance products. In addition, MAB positions itself
as a strategic partner for ambitious and high-quality intermediary firms. We support
them with adviser and lead source recruitment delivering bespoke technology solutions
which we develop in-house to optimise the customer and adviser experience and achieve
a very high advice and quality standard level. We also deliver targeted training,
marketing and business consultancy solutions for those firms. Uniquely, MAB are 
also effectively a franchise model where mortgage intermediary firms adopt Mortgage
Advice Bureau trading style which in the region of 70% of our firms do right now.

Mortgage Advice Bureau is the most recognised intermediary consumer brand in the
UK and has won over 70 awards in the last 5 years under that brand. Through our 
branded distribution alone, MAB can provide face to face advice in every UK postcode
which is now supported by an increasing amount of telephone advice with technology
offering increasing levels of speed, ease and convenience. We do not actually employ
any of the near-1,110 advisers and the model is actually extremely cash generative
and capital light. We’re a market share model that has performed consistently year
in year out in a relatively flat market as well as previously throughout the recession.
I think our specialist approach along with our brand offering, strong technology
proposition and reputation for quality and innovation has enabled us to attract 
many of the leading UK intermediaries which we continue to do.

 

**Q3: So, how does the business look today compared to IPO nearly 3.5 years ago?**

**A3**: Well, I think we had a very high quality and loyal team when we listed in
November 2014, since then the business has invested further by strengthening the
senior management team of 7 real key appointments made. The latest was actually 
Ben Thompson just a week or so ago, the current CEO of AIM-listed ULS Technology
who will be joining the main Board in June as our Managing Director.

Mortgage Advice Bureau has a reputation, I believe, for attracting and retaining
exceptionally high-calibre individuals which I believe is down to our reputation
of being highly innovative and always aiming to set the bar higher in every part
of our proposition. The quality of appointments such as Ben I think is a reflection
of our ambition to lead the technology-led transformations we see coming in the 
intermediary sector. Through that process, I think it’ll put us in pole position
to increase our market share and further still, in the years to come.

 

**Q4: What are the main drivers for continued growth that we’ve seen at MAB?**

**A4**: Our year-on-year increases in adviser numbers has and will continue to be
a main driver of turnover growth, 50% of our growth is organic, the rest is achieved
by attracting new and ambitious firms to our business.

We’re confident of maintaining our growth targets although adviser numbers can be
lumpy and can often be second-half year loaded but we still see that moving forward
as a strong growth opportunity for us.

With technology developments planned, we believe that we’ll start to see a marked
step up in adviser productivity across much of our distribution in a few years’ 
time and that will help us further increase market share growth.

As well as investing and bringing in some of the very best talent in our industry
to MAB, we’ve also made some strong strategic investments since IPO. We anticipate
further investments this year, especially in terms of technology solutions that 
can help us deliver more faster in terms of the customer and adviser experience 
and of course lead generation which will be increasingly more technology-driven.

 

**Q5: Talking about technology, how do you see the future for Mortgage Advice Bureau
in a growing technology enabled world?**

**A5**: Technology developments can only be beneficial to the customer and we intend
to leverage everything technology can deliver to provide better customer choices
and greater ease in the way that they research, the way they receive advice and 
apply for a mortgage. Robo advice, as such, doesn’t exist today but technology enabled
advice is here now and evolving daily and our position is very clear, whatever the
customer expects, we will deliver and where possible, more.

Technology is actually in our DNA, we have always built our own technology solutions
in-house which is very unusual in our sector which means we are very agile which
we believe is crucial at a time the technology developments are moving at some pace.

I think technology will transform the intermediary sector and further enhance the
huge value mortgage intermediaries deliver to their customers and I believe MAB,
with its executive management team and Board, are ideally placed to capitalise. 
As a result of that, I expect our market share to continue to grow, our proposition
has never been stronger, to attract new firms and advisers with some exciting opportunities
to increase the pace of growth at 2020/2021 and beyond.

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